Catalina 387 Sailboat has been uniquely rigged for cruising. My friend had a 36 in the mid '80's that i was in love with. The 390 hull, deck, and rig is in fact identical to the C380 with the only change being a two cabin layout aft. It was lowered, giving more vertical space Also, the bed has optional orientation: either fore/aft or athrwartship. US$159,900 * 38 ft / 2006. Eliminated the storage above the power panel at the Nav station by increasing the panel size for upgrades. I am in the market for a boat, and am on the fence between these two. This group is for the owners and those interested in Catalina 380 series sailboats (Catalina 380, 390, 385 and 387). I am not sure how this works, but i imagine that the table is involved and cushions are placed on top, and it makes in to a pretty good sized bed. Early C387s used Charleston then changed to Seldon. Some aft cabin storage was lost on the C387. The term 'big-hipped' applies to older S&S Catalina 38s, an aspect that is very noticeable when you have a close look at one. Our goal at Catalina Yachts Store is to provide the best customer service to our Catalina family members. The 387 has a bit more head room than the 380, and therefore a higher cabin top. She has all the creature comforts you might want. Too low to be of much use, other than storage. I swore one day i was going to own one. Price: $159,967 (approx. Our boat consistently weighs over 20,000 lbs when pulled for storage every year. I am a tad over 6', my wife a tad over 5', she sleeps furthest aft and we both have plenty of room in both directions. Three different cranes have all reported that weight, so pretty sure it's accurate. I will be singlehanding 99% of the time, and i imagine the 38 will probably be just as manageable as the 36. Catalina 387. Altered the number and configuration of side fixed and opening ports. If you email me I can give you his contact information so you can talk to him yourself.]. I know a lot about the differences between the Mark I and the Mark II versions of the C34 but the differences between the C380 and the C387 seem more subtle to me. This Catalina 387 debuted in 2003 as the updated and enhanced version of the very popular Catalina 380 which had been in production over a successful eight year run since 1996. She was Cruising World's Boat of the Year in 1996. Do you know what the basic difference in the rigging is? Catalina has impeccable reputation for producing perfect coastal cruisers in the yachting community. A little more beamy than the C36, perhaps. Of course, the shower is not the only thing I am looking at but it is a definite +. Another burner on the stove, which is no big deal. Yes, definitely athwartships. I don't know about the weight of the 380, but 36 Mark IIs are significantly heavier than the design weight. Request Info. The 380 didn’t have much sound insulation inside the engine covers. My friend's complaints about the C380 had to do with its seakeeping ability. The boat's calculated balance between accommodations, performance, and price could have wide appeal. Specifications. Anyone Have thier boat out for winter and willing to measure something? I'd be hard pressed to spend $30K extra for two feet of boat and a nicer aft cabin. FWIW, I hinged the V berth ply lid across the forward edge, and made up a line from the aft edge with a hook that clips on an eye in front of the forward hatch. New Bern, North Carolina, United States. Holy cow that is a heavy boat! Notes. That is about the same as the 38. Changed the configuration of the 387 v-berth, and eliminated the forward wash basin. Catalina 387 introduced in Jan 2003 and stopped production in 2009 after 151 C387's were built. I saw a 2000 C380 recently, and i may have a new love now. The Catalina 387 is a satisfying coastal cruiser from a company that pays attention to detail. Redesigned and improved the refrigerator door. I am a C34 owner who is considering a move up to a bigger boat. . This classic model hasn't been manufactured for at least a decade, I believe. The Morgan 381 evolved into the Catalina 380, 387, and 390. Catalina changed aspects of the orginal rig (shortened boom and maybe moved the mast) to tame the squirrliness that many IOR designs displayed and the C38 is recognized as a good sailing boat as a result of those changes. On another front, early C387s had a baby stay. Information and features of Catalina 387. About the CATALINA 380 sailboat Catalina Yachts Store was established in 2002 with the vision of providing quality custom apparel and great customer service. Even room for the cats. Catalina Direct, publishers of the Catalina 22 and Catalina 25 Owner's Handbooks and the largest supplier of parts and Lewmar winches for Catalina Yachts in the country. I like the salon layout of the 36 better. Offering the best selection of Catalina boats to choose from. Learn how your comment data is processed. Today's C380s are normal everyday shape as you might expect for a modern production boat. It also has a 30 gallon holding tank and to inland sailors that is a weak point for the 36, 18 gallons keeps you going for pump outs every 6-7 days at best. [quote=richie30;11932]THe 36 has a very limited use aft cabin. It appears that the cockpit is raised and there is a centerline queen bed option that makes the aft berth seem like a real bedroom. Keep updated on whats happening in the world of the Catalina 36 class. CatalinaOwners.com has the parts and accessories you need for your Catalina sailboat. The Catalina 380 is designed to incorporate the performance, accommodations, and features which experienced sailors consider important. 1 1 1 1 * This price is based on today's currency conversion rate. Also, with the wider sterned boats the owners cabin is more likely to be the aft cabin where its more likely to be annoying. In the slings, at normal cruising weight (extra stuff, lots of beer, owner-installed equipment, extra anchor and rode, two tool boxes, fuel, water, holding tank status unknown, etc, etc) my C36 Mk II weighs right at 19,100 lbs. They both are good boats though. Catalina eliminated the vented sealed liner on at least one of the aft swim platform 387 lockers.-One is sealed, one is open to the lazarette. We even take all the upholstery home. Pacific Beach, CA. Other folks on here have reported similar results. Divided anchor locker and added an additional roller. Keep updated on whats happening in the world of the Catalina 380/387/390 class. From canvas and cushions to rigging and hardware by top suppliers like Lewmar, Schaefer, Gray, Ronstan, and more. Catalina 380 Brochure 2. Catalina Yachts Store was established in 2002 with the vision of providing quality custom apparel and great customer service. The 387 has a bit more head … Compare prices on Catalina 380, read specifications and descriptions and see Catalina 380 images from our global listings. 2006. The MKI's are probably slightly less prone to it that the wider sterned MKII's. Catalina 380 sailboat / sailing yacht: Catalina, used boat, GRP/polyester length x beam: 11.75 m x 3.76 m, 11.75 x 3.76 m built: 1998, cabins: 2 engine: Westerbeke, 40 hp (29 kW), diesel € 79,000 location: Netherlands, Lelystad 1998 company: De Vaart Yachting The 387 is a modified 380, which replaced the C380 and C390 boats. [QUOTE=pierview;11890]Aside from the other comments about weight and rigging, my sailing friend has an older C38 and he has a small but very annoying problem. Hard to find a 380 for anywhere near the kind of money 36 Mark IIs sell for from what I can see. Sailboat and sailing yacht searchable database with more than 8,000 sailboats from around the world including sailboat photos and drawings. In coming up with a successor to the legendary Catalina 36, Catalina s long-time in-house designer, Gerry Douglas, had his work cut out for him. With really strong current or confused seas, you might have waves hitting the back of the boat while on the hook but its not the normal condition. Another consideration is Westerbeke versus Yanmar, which is actually a 380 vs. 380 consideration, since it occurred sometime during the 2000 model year. I would have to guess i would be happy with either boat, but just having trouble making the decision. Eliminated the dedicated nav-station seat. Used late model 36s are plentiful in CA, but there are no 38s. All aspects of the Catalina 380 – from the securely stayed rig to the choice of deep or shoal draft keels – reflect a sailing lifestyle. This did give rise to a mod to fix questionable interior attachment of stay & resulting leaks.- The turnover was thought to be in around hull 60?. Perhaps others could comment on this or add to it. Images, 40 Hp motor, 12,1 length of Catalina 387 in iNautia.com. I takes a little more to get you going, but is probably a little more stable when it gets ugly, or at anchor in an unprotected area or less than calm conditions. That way the bed stays made up. Ballast: 7300 lbs./3311 kgs. Our goal at Catalina Yachts Store is to provide the best customer service to our Catalina family members. This configuration provides an interesting draft / low center of gravity / upwind performance trade-off. Either way, it seems to me more likely to be a problem in a marina than on the hook. Additional Reef Point For Large Boats . She is built since 2012 by Catalina Yachts (United States). This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Changed the cabinetry under the galley sink. See the latest Sailing cruiser boats from the Catalina Yachts shipyard. Catalina 400 National Association Catalina 387 boat. Lots of cabinet changes in the salon, enlarged the aft cabinets and eliminated shelves. Moderator of Catalina380 Groups.io Listserv jnorman58@hotmail.com *Note that C385s are new to the group so information specific to … Catalina 385 is the upper image and 36 is the lower. [Hearsay, and I probably ought not repeat it: I have heard very ungood things about the sailing qualities of the C380, from a (knowledgeable) owner of a classic Sparks & Stephens big hipped Catalina 38. Now, I am not familiar with the names of the various designs Catalina came out with, but if you look closely, one of the designs is vey low at the stern to the water. I am in the market for a boat, and am on the fence between these two. The heavier displacement can be good and bad. $203,717 Seller Beaufort Yacht Sales 40. I believe that they only have about 5 inches more in the beam over the 36. We're the first and last stop for parts and accessories. Some like the additional room in the 387. C-380 Std Rig Full Batten Main . Other designs have the bottom sweeping up just a bit at the stern. As to hull slap, I'd say the S&S C38 is probably the least likely Catalina to experience that, but most other Catalina designs (and those of their competitors) could be under certain conditions. : 19500 lbs./8845 kgs. We tried one night sleeping fore and aft but it was hard to breathe with the cockpit sole about a foot and a half above my face :-( We have always slept in the V berth since. The old S&S C38 is an entirely different boat than the C380. Bill Ahillen, Commodore Kathy II, C-380 # 5 bahillen@comcast.net Tom Brantigan, Webmaster Toccata in Sea, C-387 #96 Jim Norman. Another member of this site said that they sleep in the salon area on the couch area. The separate head/shower is nice too, but probably not a real deal breaker for me. C36MKII versus C380/387 . The 390 hull, deck, and rig is in fact identical to the C380 with the only change being a two cabin layout aft. The lower backstay legs were move farther inboard so the stern perch seats are easier to access. Call 800/959-7245 and ask for a quote. Perhaps others could comment on this or add to it.[/QUOTE]. A shower would be great, as would a bit of extra room and sink in the V Berth. Our search technology instantly finds Catalina 380 for sale from our database of thousands of luxury and exotic yachts. I know that the older 38s were "big hipped", but do you think that is the same of the newer boats? Copyright © 2021, Catalina 36/375 International Association, Catalina 36/375 International Association. Re: Catalina 387, 400 or 42 Purchase old PDQ 36 or Privilege 37 catamarans that offers me a separate shower at a price I can afford. Its clearly a hull design of the IOR era and was intially designed as a racer. The Catalina 385 is a 34’10” (10.6m) cruising sailboat designed by Gerry Douglas (United States). A shower would be great, as would a bit of extra room and sink in the V Berth. Very noticeable. The newest, the Catalina 375, is one of them. This holds the ply up with all the bedding on it when I want to get into the forward locker (We are a Mk I) where we keep the sails and spare anchor, etc. Catalina split the starboard salon bench seat in two seats with dedicated table, where the 380 bench seat back folded down with a less functional table top. I'm still going back and forth on this one, but i agree with what you say. Catalina 387. No tumble home, no pinched ends, I bet the C380 has nearly twice the hull volume of the old 38. Tom chose the wing keel version, because he plans to do some gunkholing (American for poking around shallow waterways) so at the bottom of this 387’s keel is Catalina’s delta-shaped, which has a wingspan of about a metre. Catalina 380 Brochure 1. The inboard shroud base allows for narrow sheeting angles and the ability to carry large Genoas. the genoa winches were downsized from #54 to #48. $189.00. The 387 is heavyish at 8618kg (19,000lb) with the fin keel (which draws 2.18m), or 8845kg for the fin keeler drawing 1.47m. Mast on C380s from z-spar until later switch to Charleston. Blair White Winged keel model also available. The 380 has standard and tall-mast versions?? This Catalina 380 is one of the more popular 38 footers. Beaufort Yacht Sales. Contact. We find it quite roomy - for sleeping....But then again we found the aft cabin in our 28 to be fine as well, so this one is by contrast quite spacious. A new backstay system creates an impressive cockpit for the avid sailor, and Catalina’s unique SecureSocket™ chain plates mast support system affords superior load resolution. 2004 C36 MKII # 2169 "Dash" The 387 has some, needs more. The term doesn't refer to the beam of the hull, but to its shape...which is like this... ( ). base, FOB Woodland Hills, CA). The forward cabin has more floor space, but the bed seems smaller and there is no hanging locker in the cabin. We have designs for every standard mains'l including full batten mains and furling mains for every Catalina model. Locating primary diesel fuel filter in 1994 Catalina MKii. (draft: 4.83'/1.47m) Disp. Marblehead, Massachusetts, United States. All new designs from Catalina Yachts can trace their pedigrees back to the first boats Frank Butler built in California just as fiberglass-boat building was taking off. Don't compare this number with a weight from a brochure. – In the 387, the table lowers and becomes a bench. I don't know about the weight of the 380, but 36 Mark IIs are significantly heavier than the design weight. Please also consider joining the official Catalina 380 International Association at Catalina380… I had no idea a 36 would weigh in at 20K pounds. New Bern, North Carolina, United States. A 3 burner propane stove, w/oven, micro, stainless refrigerator w/freezer, plenty of storage for long voyage provisioning. The 387 is a superior cruising and performance boat, but production was stopped in 2009 due to the down turn in the economy in 2008. Agreed, but only sleeping athwartships! That's empty of everything except fuel, the mast and rigging are off the boat. 380 has a separate bronze strut for support of the prop-shaft while the 387 has a molded in skeg which covers the shaft completely. Oh yeah! The problem he has is that at anchor, he gets a very annoying slapping sound from the water against the hull. #Z2365. To me, with the uneducated eye, the big differences are the heavier displacement, the separate head/shower combo, and the massive aft berth arrangement. Other than cost and age, are there important distinctions I should keep in mind when comparing the two boats? A significant change is the aft “queen” bed configuration. Well that day has come, but now i have a new wrinkle. The S&S designed C38 has prominent tumblehome (inward curvature towards the hull/deck joint). Catalina 387 . Well, that's about all i know about the major differences. I live in the San Diego, CA area, and most of my sailing would be centered around local coastal cruising and Channel Islands, with hopefully lots of time spent at Catalina Island. The Catalina 380 was designed and built for weekend and vacation sailing with the added capability of an occasional offshore jaunt and extended sabbatical cruise. The waste tank that was mounted under the bench seat was moved to what is a wet hanging locker on the 380. His classic 38 is a wonderful sailer, he says, but the 380 he had experience with on a delivery did not measure up. Vanity up front, which might be nice if you had multiple people staying on the boat. The 380 does have a much nicer aft cabin, though I've only seen it in pictures. The earlier 380s are equipped with a smaller genoa furler. Using Catalina/Morgan’s quick and sturdy C381 hull as the basis for their new beamier design, the 387 offers a larger aft cabin floor plan, more main cabin ports and hatches, and a longer cockpit for outdoor entertainment. The aft cabin is very large but not useful if this keeps you awake all night. The Catalina 380 is sensibly equipped with an offshore-capable rig with double spreader mast, inline uppers, intermediates, fore and aft lowers, forestay, and back stay. Our boat consistently weighs over 20,000 lbs when pulled for storage every year. How do you improve on a design that has The aft bunk is really sweet! 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